Breeding projects?

I know it's early, but do you guys have breeding projects lined up for next season? I'm hoping things will go well and my het pied female will be ready to breed by then.

I am breeding pieds and yeah not for next season but I have 2 viper boas that will be birthing within the next 3 months.

Also several normal balls

I'm really hoping to get some stuff going with my cresteds. But well they may not be ready by next season. I've only got the one male, so it depends on what I get as a female and how old she is...so on and so forth.

Not to mention I have a lot on research to do, and school soon. we will see how it goes

I am hoping to get my BRB going. My male is ready but I still need a female. Anyone have a Brazilian rainbow boa female ready for breeding or maybe selling a adult female? Please get in touch with me..... Thanks all!

Well, sadly had to sell most of my animals...but I still have a few and hope to start at least one project involving my leos next year, and maybe move onto some snakes, since I have yet to be able to.

I don't have a pic because I don't want to annoy them, but my het pied pair has been locked since this morning. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

I had my pastel and mj lock two diff times but they haven't touched each other since then.....i'd still like to find a spider or some other morph just to stick int he tank with mj for a day and see if she goes for him too. maybe get an array of little slimy snakes :-P

I have 2 ball pythons both are either male or female I dont know how to sex them but I do want to trade one of my snakes for a female ball python please let me know if you can help o if someone can come by and tell me what sex my snakes are

Where are you located, bignut?

I've had locks all over the place. Don't have any pics, but I'm happy.

I've had a couple of locks with my male spider ball and one of my normal females so far. Hoping for spider babies this season!





Hoping my orange ghost will make weight this season as well, but it's not looking extremely likely. If she does, I'll pair her with the spider as well.

Also hoping that my female het albino makes weight. If so, she'll be paired with another het albino.

That's about it for this season for me.

If they don't make weight this year, there's always next! I'm going to make a list of what I want you to make for me over the next few years, k? lol

LOL Absolutely! The girls that are so close this year but not quite up to size should definitely be ready to go next season.

And hopefully this spring/summer, I'll finally get my male butter. By that time, the female lesser is going to be getting some size on her. If she makes weight by next season (and as healthily as she's eating and growing, she may just be), and my male butter arrives and gets big enough, I could be on the way to some BELs! That's the project I really can't wait for! (Well, that and the honeybees. hehe)

Make me a list, and I'll see what I can do. Just save me a male pied!

I will be very happy with just getting some pastels, oh and if anyone wants to borrow my male pastel they are welcome to. He isn't locking with my female any more, maybe some other one will help.

Oh, there are plenty of combo-morphs I'd love to have and you'll be working with several of my favorite "ingredients", Pam. I know I want a lesser or a butter pair from you when you're producing some. I'd like to make some pastel butter pieds in the future.


Devin, I'd love to borrow your pastel!

Caught Gabriel and Kyriel (my het pieds) together tonight.



That's Gabriel peeking out from Kyriel's coils.

very awesome

Even though she's not quite as heavy as I'd like her to be at the moment, I decided to go ahead and see if Henna would be receptive as well and.....





It's hard to see, but they were definitely locked and yes, that's Devin's Cybin. I wouldn't have gone ahead and paired them if I didn't feel certain that Devin's animals are bug-free and healthy. I know that's no guarantee that something could be missed and this is a definite instance of do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do. I just didn't want to miss a window of oppurtunity with storm fronts rolling in and both snakes had already digested their meals. I expect Henna to start downing more rats and putting on more weight if she's this receptive to breeding. Since this is her first time, I don't know if I'll have a clutch of het albinos and pastel hets but I'm optimistic.

pastel hets? ;-P lol sorry had to point that one out. That is awesome I am glad he is rowdy for you maybe after they lock a couple of times i will bring him back here and see if mj will take an interest lol. He needs to sow some wild oats.

The Anti-Poon wrote:

pastel hets? ;-P lol sorry had to point that one out. That is awesome I am glad he is rowdy for you maybe after they lock a couple of times i will bring him back here and see if mj will take an interest lol. He needs to sow some wild oats.

Pastel het albinos

get yah a better pic of the lock and we can sell them on kingsnake or something as 100% het albinos :-P

Devin, I got a female or two he can sow some more wild oats with!

lol all i ask is a pastel baby out of the clutch if you get 2 or more. if you only get one you can keep it lol. OOOOOr the use of an incubator ????:-P

Give me a little more time to let him work his magic on my girl and you can have him back. lol You're wanting a female baby pastel, right?

no hurry at all I would prefer him to get the job done with one instead of fail with many lol.

Well, I'll let you know when he's lost interest or his female ovulates -- whichever comes first.

dirty little bastard better not "lose interest" his daddy loves home some sex, he needs to live up to his reputation.

LOL You could have the whole clutch minus the pastel of my choosing if ya want. I'll even incubate the clutch.

But absolutely--definitely let him lock with Sandy's albino as much as possible. Pastel het albinos would be worth more than normals and pastels.

PythonPassion wrote:

LOL You could have the whole clutch minus the pastel of my choosing if ya want. I'll even incubate the clutch.

But absolutely--definitely let him lock with Sandy's albino as much as possible. Pastel het albinos would be worth more than normals and pastels.

I haven't even priced pastel het albinos. What are those going for nowadays?

This ad: http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=735769 on kingsnake lists a female pastel het albino at $500. That's the only ad I came across right off, so I don't know what the males would be worth.

It's getting a bit strange to me on pricing some stuff. It used to be that the females were worth more than males, but here lately I've been seeing many males priced higher than the females, which in some ways makes sense, as you can breed one male to many females, which would (to me) make them worth more. But then, you gotta have the females to lay the eggs, so . . . ?

I think it's always been that male doms and co-doms were more valuable than females because they could be put to use so much earlier and produce morph offspring with normal females, but the market on snakes just seems topsy-turvy lately. Some people are listing their morphs for little to nothing just to get rid of them and others are still marking them at their sales prices from last year and before so there's a huge gap between. I think the python ban had a lot to do with that in the beginning because some prepared for the worst and were cutting their losses and others were trying to compete with the lowered prices. Who knows, though.

Yeah, I know what you mean. There's many that are in the boat of trying to get rid of offspring they've produced.

With my spider male, though, the females were listing much higher than the males (males were around $300-400 when I bought mine) but females were still going for around $600-800. Which is partly why I decided on gettiing a male (other reasons were that I had plenty of females to breed him to, and since he was dom, I could breed him to multiple females if I wanted to). Of course, that was back in '08. But the recessives have always seemed to hold their value better than any other . . . I think ghosts are still in the neighborhood of $500 each--don't quote me on that though, since i haven't checked prices recently. Honeybees (spider ghosts) were around $2,000 last time I checked. At any rate, I can understand why they hold their value--takes much longer to produce visuals. But still, like you said, some people have just knocked the bottom out on pricing while others are still holding, so it really does make for some interesting prices out there. What I'd sorta planned to do was see what some of the big breeders are selling theirs for, and then price mine a tad under that. But that too is somewhat dependent on what all is produced and what some of the other "no-names" like myself are selling theirs at too. It's just so hard to guess right now! LOL

PythonPassion wrote:

Yeah, I know what you mean. There's many that are in the boat of trying to get rid of offspring they've produced.

With my spider male, though, the females were listing much higher than the males (males were around $300-400 when I bought mine) but females were still going for around $600-800. Which is partly why I decided on gettiing a male (other reasons were that I had plenty of females to breed him to, and since he was dom, I could breed him to multiple females if I wanted to). Of course, that was back in '08. But the recessives have always seemed to hold their value better than any other . . . I think ghosts are still in the neighborhood of $500 each--don't quote me on that though, since i haven't checked prices recently. Honeybees (spider ghosts) were around $2,000 last time I checked. At any rate, I can understand why they hold their value--takes much longer to produce visuals. But still, like you said, some people have just knocked the bottom out on pricing while others are still holding, so it really does make for some interesting prices out there. What I'd sorta planned to do was see what some of the big breeders are selling theirs for, and then price mine a tad under that. But that too is somewhat dependent on what all is produced and what some of the other "no-names" like myself are selling theirs at too. It's just so hard to guess right now! LOL

Yeah, recessives are more complicated to reproduce compared to the doms and co-doms. Another factor is your customer base. If you don't have any interested buyers, you could wind up chipping away at your asking price until you're practically giving it away.

Yep, that's very true. It helps to be certified to ship so that your potential customer base is nationwide, but even still, if what you're breeding isn't what's "hot" at the moment, you could still wind up stuck with some, or selling them at way below the typical asking price.

I need to get certified to ship. That's somewhere on my to-do list.

QuietTempest wrote:

I need to get certified to ship. That's somewhere on my to-do list.

That reminded me . . . I posted up the info on how to go about doing that in the Announcements section. Feel free to move it if I put it in the wrong place. Figured there might be some folks out there who need to know how to do that.

Seems as good a place as any! Thanks again!

any more locks with pastel or with your het pieds sandy?

The Anti-Poon wrote:

any more locks with pastel or with your het pieds sandy?

He's was locked up again with Henna two nights ago. I introduced him to Ailynn and hoped that he'd show some interest in her but I think he only has eyes for Henna. If anything happened between him and Ailynn I missed it.

I spoke too soon.



It was some awkward tail twisting, but they didn't seem to mind it. I had no idea there was a ball python edition of the Kama Sutra.




Cybin still has some rough spots on his back, but I'm certain that they'll disappear with his next shed. Ailynn is getting plump! Can you see the stretched scales in that pic? I'm hoping that Cybin seals the deal with her rather than Mitch. I love my normal guy, but I'd absolutely love to have some pastels peeking out of eggs this year. Thanks again, Devin!

Its not snakes, but its breeding project related.

I was expecting to have 10 clutches by March first... but with two females still waiting to lay, another female that hasnt came to size like i planned, one female not taking a male at all, and only having one female lay... I have 2 clutches so far. Lameness.

Awwwww.. Which pairs did you get to lay for you?

I'm 100% certain that Dewshine ovulated last week and I thought that Ailynn had ovulated just a few days later, but I just put Cybin in her enclosure last night just to see if anything would happen and the two of them were locked within minutes...... so... either I was wrong and she was just building when she looked enormous or she's still locking up after ovulating (I read someone's post on ball-pythons.net that their female was still locking up to the day before she laid)... Why does this all have to be so confounding? LOL

Update on my normal X spider pairing: she shed today! I expect eggs around May 5th!

I was looking through my records on this girl from previous years, and she is going about a month earlier than usual this year! I'm so happy about that--I figured she'd be late on me on purpose. LOL I'm so excited and anxious--I can't wait to see how many she lays!

Congrats, Pam! Take lots and lots of pics when the time comes!

Thanks much and absolutely!

I believe one of my females is starting to go into a post-ovulation shed now (finally)! Dewshine should shed in a few days. Ailynn, on the other hand, is just restless. She managed to get out of the 40g breeder not once but TWICE in the past few days! I've moved her into a tub in the rack to keep her where I want her. Still hoping something happens with Henna. She's still locking with Cybin, but that's all so far.

anyone have price lists of any sexes of het or morphs for sale? i have an upstate partner who is supposedly interested, and wanting me to get quotes and possibly acquire and keep for her on balls, and boas.

You *might* be able to gauge prices from sites like Kingsnake and FaunaClassifieds, but until we've actually got babies up and ready to go I doubt any of us have absolute price figures yet. There are a lot of variables that go into pricing. I wouldn't want to quote something now and be way off later on.

Dewshine is in blue and laying inverted in her lay box. This is all so familiar.